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Coises
Joined: 28 Nov 2011 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject: Trouble with trills (especially when the pull off is first)
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Trills (and hammer-ons and pull-offs in general) don't seem to work as expected.
This applies to all the Real___ guitars I've tried... looking directly at RealGuitar Steel String 5.1.2.7479 as an example.
Hold down A3 and repeatedly press and release B3: the indication in the window switches between "Hammer On (2 st)" and "Hammer On" -- should it not be "Hammer On (2 st)" alternating with "Pull Off (2 st)"?
Hold down B3 and repeatedly press and release A3: the indication in the window shows "Pull Off (2 st)" for the first tap of A3 and "Solo" for the remaining taps; B3 is not repeated when A3 is released.
Surely that isn't the intended behavior? In particular, a B-A-B pick, pull off, hammer on appears to be impossible; the second B never sounds.
Do others see the same behavior? It doesn't make sense to me. |
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Sergey_MusicLab
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 2781
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:13 am Post subject:
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Coises,
'Hold down A3 and repeatedly press and release B3: the indication in the window switches between "Hammer On (2 st)" and "Hammer On" -- should it not be "Hammer On (2 st)" alternating with "Pull Off (2 st)"?'
- you are right, should be named 'Pull Off'
'Hold down B3 and repeatedly press and release A3: the indication in the window shows "Pull Off (2 st)" for the first tap of A3 and "Solo" for the remaining taps; B3 is not repeated when A3 is released.'
- unfortunately, not implemented
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Sergey _________________ MusicLab Support. |
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Coises
Joined: 28 Nov 2011 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:18 am Post subject:
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Thanks for the clarification. It seems that even if I play as overlapping notes (without holding the upper note), I can't get a pull off followed by a hammer on; instead, I get a pull off followed by a normal string pick.
I realize there might be a good reason it works this way, but will you take this as a "feature request" that if it's possible, it would be good if overlaps, mordents and trills worked the same way whether they are played ascending or descending?
I'm not much of a guitar player, so I might not understand what is common or sensible on a guitar; still, from searching the Internet, it appears that lower (or inverted) mordents are sometimes written for and played on guitar. What I can say is that as a keyboard player, once you hold a key and tap a key one half or whole step higher and get what sounds like a characteristic guitar mordent, it's difficult not to expect the same thing when you hold and tap one half or whole step lower. I think the current behavior makes playing in Solo mode a bit error-prone, since the "lower mordent" figure comes so naturally to the fingers, but contrary to what is expected and intended, it leaves the lower note hanging. |
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Sergey_MusicLab
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:30 pm Post subject:
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Coises,
Thanks for the suggestion, but you are the first to ask about that. Note, that inverted mordents and trills are rarely used on guitar, though often on keyboards.
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Sergey _________________ MusicLab Support. |
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