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almur
Joined: 20 Dec 2017 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:39 am Post subject: Dragging patterns and chords into the track
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Hi,
I am evaluating a demo version of RealGuitar 5. The RealGuitar seems pretty similar to Toontrack EzKeys, where I can drag my song into the track and it will export the pattern and the chord progression. However, In RealGuitar, when I drag patterns from the song into a track in Logic Pro X the pattern is exported but the chords progression is not exported. Is it it supposed to be this way or I am missing something here?
Thank you in advance for your help! |
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Sergey_MusicLab
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 am Post subject:
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almur,
1. That's supposed to be.
You can drag out Pattern track to edit pattern notes in detail in a MIDI track (don't forget to activate the Track button in the lower part of Song mode window), but chord progression is better editable within Song track.
Also note, that RealGuitar Song mode pattern-chord technology is quite different from EZKeys system.
2. In case you want to use the whole Song part with any third party synth you can export it as MIDI file - click the Down Arrow button in the lower part of Song mode window and select 'Export Song as MIDI file' in popup menu.
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Sergey _________________ MusicLab Support. |
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almur
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:02 pm Post subject:
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Thank you Sergey,
When I drag exported song midi file back into the RealGuitar track it sounds very different from original song. Is it supposed to be like this? |
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Sergey_MusicLab
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject:
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almur,
Yes, it will sound worse when played back in Solo mode. Exported MIDI file includes only bare MIDI notes lacking string/fret information, mutes, etc. Not intended to use that way.
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Sergey _________________ MusicLab Support. |
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almur
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:36 pm Post subject:
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Ok, I see. But here is what I want to do. Create a song in RealGuitar then use other guitar from other plugin to play the song.
Is it possible to do?
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Sergey_MusicLab
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:19 pm Post subject:
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almur
As I wrote, it is possible, but the sound will not be same as you hear within RG Song mode.
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Sergey _________________ MusicLab Support. |
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mluser
Joined: 19 Nov 2015 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:49 am Post subject:
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almur wrote: | Ok, I see. But here is what I want to do. Create a song in RealGuitar then use other guitar from other plugin to play the song.
Is it possible to do?
Thank you, |
You can set RealGuitarVST to Setup > Output Mode (Audio, Both, Midi) output to MIDI then send that to your other VST Instrument track.
Or you can send the midi out from RGVST Pattern Chords mode to another track with RGVST set on Solo mode, on that track you can add keyswitches to add any articulation to the patterns, now you can send the midi out from that to your Virtual Instrument.
There is also an option to save chords as midi markers in the midi file as most DAWs will show these in the track. |
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almur
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:30 am Post subject:
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Thank you for your suggestion. I tried and it does not work. I set output to midi in RGVST and send it to other VST, but there is no sound. Seems midi does not go to other VST for some reason, or maybe I am doing something wrong. If I play a note on RGVST with midi controller the midi does go to other vst, but if I play a pattern in RGVST it does not produce any sound.
I send midi using cables in MIDI Environment in Logic Pro X. Is it correct? |
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Sergey_MusicLab
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:44 am Post subject:
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almur,
Unfortunately Logic doesn't support MIDI Out from AU instrument.
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Sergey _________________ MusicLab Support. |
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mluser
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almur
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:43 pm Post subject:
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Thank you! The MiniHost seems like a cool tool but unfortunately it does not work with Logic. I guess I have to try other DAW. |
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mluser
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:09 pm Post subject:
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REAPER will do it all, it's free to try n try n try... and you won't need MiniHost. |
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almur
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:52 am Post subject:
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Thank you. I finally figured out how to use MiniHost in Logic. I have another unrelated question. I am comparing RealGuitar to Elya Efimov Strum.
Can I program different strumming pattern for each bar of the song?
Thank you in advance! |
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mluser
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almur
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