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Johannes
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 38 Location: Hills of the Andes
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:
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OldGeezer wrote: | ...did you check out Allan's Resolve on the same page? |
Where do I find the song. Sounds interesting!
Johannes _________________ You can’t get it wrong and you never get it done—
on this ongoing adventure, you can have so much fun. |
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OldGeezer
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Canada
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Johannes
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 38 Location: Hills of the Andes
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject:
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Whow!!! That was fast!!!
Thanks OldGeezer.
Johannes _________________ You can’t get it wrong and you never get it done—
on this ongoing adventure, you can have so much fun. |
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OldGeezer
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:
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J van E wrote: | I have to say that I think about that every now and then (to really dig into ONE single project for a few months and really make it perfect) but then I think: what for...? |
Well, despite claims that some make music for themselves, I've always figured music is a way to express oneself to others in an artistic way. If I could post one tune, and know a few people put it on their mp3 players coz they loved it, mission accomplished. I have no delusions about becoming a star. But I'd still love to make it onto a few mp3 players someday and know my mind touched someone else's through art. |
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OldGeezer
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject:
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And those critisisms you're getting in the Sonar forum (incredibly, neither of the first two replies mention midi), they're giving them because they assume you're going to work on it to make it better. Ya know? It's not just me man Lots of people in there post multiple versions of the same song based on the advice they get in their posts. Like I said, critisism is the best way to learn, even though it usually sucks to hear it.
You say you can't make something like Allan's Resolve, and I say that's true...but only because you believe it to be true. I don't. If you ever decide it's worth the work and develop a personal work-style with RS over the next year or so, you'll stop believing it. |
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J van E
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 308
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:
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Hm, yes, well, I haven't been playing music for a year and a half or so, because of this: I noticed I wasn't making music for my own fun but to please others (well, not entirely, but it played an important part). That's okay, of course, but if you don't have fun yourself in the meantime... So now I've started again (coincidently when RS is showing up) and I made a promise to myself to do what I like...
Apart from that, it IS nice to get appreciation. I do have a simple tune (just as simple as Walking) that's been hovering in the Soundclick Acoustic guitar top 20 for almost a year and a half now (and I don't say this to brag about it or to get more appreciation, believe me, I'm just being honest!): every now and then I get a mail that the song has been added to yet another playlist and I have to admit: that's VERY nice! But nevertheless, I don't want to make music purely for THAT kind of satisfaction anymore... It IS nice but I rather have FUN while making music itself.
(BTW That tune was made in a whopping two days , is just as simple as Walking, maybe even more simple, and still... some people seem to like it...! So I guess there is more to music than just a perfect mix a la Allan's Resolve...! )
OldGeezer wrote: | You say you can't make something like Allan's Resolve, and I say that's true...but only because you believe it to be true. I don't. If you ever decide it's worth the work and develop a personal work-style with RS over the next year or so, you'll stop believing it. |
Very true: That's exactly what I meant to say with my earlier post (about being impantient and so on ).
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And BTW it IS also a matter of taste. I said I made the tune with Neil Young in my mind: you won't see him making stuff like Allan's Resolve , but that doesn't mean he can't reacht the heart of people! So taste plays an important part too: some people DO like things rough and edgy and unfinished. |
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J van E
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 308
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject:
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OldGeezer wrote: | And those critisisms you're getting in the Sonar forum (incredibly, neither of the first two replies mention midi), they're giving them because they assume you're going to work on it to make it better. Ya know? It's not just me man Lots of people in there post multiple versions of the same song based on the advice they get in their posts. Like I said, critisism is the best way to learn, even though it usually sucks to hear it. |
Indeed, they all tell me how to polish it more. But that's of course also the main purpose of that forum! I'm also (pleasantly) surprised no one mentions midi! I won't tell until someone starts talking about it! I mean, that's why I posted the tune over there, so see if they fall for it or not. |
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OldGeezer
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject:
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Heh heh! I think Joe Bravo is embarassed. I can't believe 3 out of 4 fell for it. I can't freakin believe it. |
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CosmicD
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 131 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject:
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should i go and tell there that i'm the biggest music critic and tell it's midi :PPP (j/k) _________________ Cosmic Dreamer on iTunes - http://itun.es/i6D89V7 |
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OldGeezer
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject:
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NO! Please, don't anyone from here post there, at least until we see where it goes...it sounds like a debate of midi vs real is about to start. lmao! |
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CosmicD
Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 131 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject:
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yeah, i was just joking. What really interesting to see how some are going to back it up with (their) reason.
I wish I could wash away my knowledge. I'd probably hear something fishy about the pitchbends as well (if i think back, thats what somebody said already)... but I wouldn't quite be able put my finger up to it first... _________________ Cosmic Dreamer on iTunes - http://itun.es/i6D89V7 |
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J van E
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 308
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:46 am Post subject:
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Pity, no one else posted but I don't want to tell right now already. I wonder if Joe Bravo meant to say that it is OBVIOUSLY midi, like he can't believe someone even thought it was real. But it looks the other way around.
Anyway, I posted a reaction (not reacting on the midi remarks) to see if I can bring some life into that discussion again, hoping someone else will start about that midi too.
What I posted there BTW could be posted here too (as it is in fact some sort of follow up of the discussion between OldGeezer and me).
I have to say though it's a bit weird (and uncomfortable) to post here about posts there... |
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OldGeezer
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject:
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No, I read his message before it was edited and it was obvious he'd replied before reading the other posts coz he added the quote and his last comment afterward. He didn't notice.
I'll be honest, if you saw some of his comments in another thread about how alternative rock musicians have no talent and "heavy metal idiots" and how jazz is god's gift to music, you'd understand how badly I wanted to tell Mr Music about this.
Lol...I just checked. The real vs midi debate is starting. |
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J van E
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 308
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Well, the jury is still not in agreement. Some are even betting it IS a real guitar! And if I am not mistaken they are mainly talking about the lead guitar, as if the others are real for sure! This is fun.
Tomorrow (it's late in the evening over here) I'll tell them the truth: I just want to see some more posts about it. |
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BobYordan
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject:
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Thanx for sharing.
Finally got a chance to hear the RealStrat.
I hope the lead also is RS. _________________ Cheers
Bob
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