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psychopomp


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: vibrato sounds Reply with quote

Hello, just bought Realstrat, and I think this is the best electric guitar vsti ever released. I also own LPC and Ministry Of Rock, but RS is exactly the instrument I needed. I just wonder if it is possible to do vibrato sounds on RS? Modulation effect produces chorus effects, but I don't see true vibrato keyswitch.
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SyQuEsT


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you try the wheels ?
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ford442


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was about to ask the same question.. i kind of assumed RS would have that feature.. are you saying to use a pitch-bend? that's the only way i can think of off hand too...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ford442,

Vibrato in RealStrat can be produced using:

1. Modulation - the easiest way allowing realtime depth control by Modulation Wheel/AfterTouch, while vibrato frequency is automatic (set frequency value and Depth max value in Left Menu bar->Tune panel).

2. Pitch - assigned to PitchBender/Modulation Wheel/Aftertouch - you can control both depth (set max range (steps) in appropriate controller box) and frequency manually

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing to remember...

Guitar fingered vibrato is only from the pitch played and up (sharp). In other words, guitar vibrato is NOT like other instruments' vibrato where the modulation moves below (flat) AND above (sharp) the played/sang pitch.

So, if you use the 'mod' wheel, only move it up and return to 'zero'.

The uses of a 'vibrato bar' or a 'slide' are whole different techniques, though. And of course, the use of a slide bar introduces noises other than fret-noise.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zumbido,

You are right, guitar fingered vibrato has 'up<->zero' phase, that is implemented in Modulation FX in RealGuitar/RealStrat. So when you use Modulation CC (automatic modulation)- pitch modulation envelope doesn't go lower zero.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"So when you use Modulation CC (automatic modulation)- pitch modulation envelope doesn't go lower zero. "

That's is good to know!

Obviously, I haven't gotten that far as of yet.

I am working on a production with RealStrat only playing harmonics. Incredible!

Here's a 'rough' mix: Song Link. I'll be adding a muted trumpet solo and maybe some 'power chords'. The nylon is, of course, RealGuitar.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zumbido,

Great job!

Not so much RealStrat though Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Not so much RealStrat though"

Well, sometimes 'less is more'.

Wink

I like the sparseness and I made sure that all these particular 'harmonics' are actually and easily playable. This track was intended to feature more of the 'Liberace-style' piano.



I'm having great results using RealStrat to reinforce existing guitar tracks.

Here's a track that I used RealStrat on to reinforce the existing guitars. The more 'aggressive' rhythm guitar (on the left or the side with the hihat) is RealStrat. The 'melodic' ostinato part (in octaves) is also RealStrat.

Song Example: "Fire"
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zumbido,

Quote:
Well, sometimes 'less is more'.


Fully agree with you.
Arrangement small details are very important, though less apparent.

'Fire' is very good arranged. Sounds very pro and convincing.

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