TAB compatible MIDI output possible with RS and RG2L?

[Compyfox]

Yeah this one's a bit special, though I really need that feature sometimes.

It's all good and stuff that I can actually "play" on my keyboard and then slam some stuff in terms of guitar. But the more I work with RS, the better I get, the more I also hear people "this is soooooooooo fake" (no joke! especially from guitarists, at least with RS, RG2L is fairly decent to them if mixed into a busy mix, or RS is played in PowerChord mode only rather than solo).

This is where an actual guitarist comes into place. And rather giving him chords for piano that he doesn't understand, or convert it with three different tools or something like that, I wanted to know if it's maybe possible to record the output from RS/RG2L in my host, so that I get TAB compatible MIDI.

It's also if I want to scetch something in Chord mode, then I'd record it and switch back to Solo Mode to have the possibility to add some random picking and solo play (cause switching between solo and chord mode, on the fly is a bit meh, and for adding slight nuances it's nearly impossible to pull off).


Thing is... I tried that already with Cubase SX3. Routed one MIDI channel to Input A = MIDI Keyboard, Output RealStrat, and a second MIDI channel to Input = RealStrat and Output = none. I can route it, but I don't get any data recorded.

Is this just a bug, or is this feature just not implemented? If the later, mind if I ask why?


Oh yeah, I really wish there'd be a built in "editor" for tabs like with GuitarPro5. Or the old Ryhthm & Chords implemented (since it doesn't work with SX anymore).


Setup:
Intel P4 2,4GHz Single Core
1GB RAM
Windows XP SP2
Cubase SX3.1.1 (last update)
RealStrat v1.0
RealGuitar2L (from the server early this year)

[Compyfox]

bumpety-boo.

Any news here? Please don't let me hanging, folks.

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Compyfox,

RG/RS has no MIDI out. We are planning to add this option in future. But as far as I know only Cubase can provide MIDI out from VSTi

Regards,
Sergey
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[Compyfox]

Most of the major hosts can do that now, Sergey. For example, arpeggiators need a certain MIDI output, which can then be recorded by another channel. And even though FL users might run into trouble, it's be unfair to let others left out.

Thing is... will the output be TAB compatible? And... do you maybe have an ETA of that feature implementation?

I could need it right now, but I guess I have to wait a while.

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Compyfox,

I don't know what is TAB compatible.
We'll implement all MIDI notes out within single MIDI channel, as far as I understand the MIDI Out technology (I'm not deep in that side of creating music

Regards,
Sergey
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MusicLab Support.

[Compyfox]

I'd consider TAB compatibility like:

Played an A chord on the keyboard (3 keys) -> RealGuitar/RealStrat in Chord Mode -> Strings played 6 -> MIDI output correspond to the played strings.

If you'd load that MIDI into a tab program like GuitarPro5 now, you get exact corresponding tabs to print out for real guitarists. And this is what I'm actually looking for.

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Compyfox,

Then we'll need six MIDI channels (corresponding to 6 strings), or else how can you indicate which MIDI note was played on which string in standard MIDI format.

Regards,
Sergey
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MusicLab Support.

[Compyfox]

Why does every sting need to have an individual MIDI channel?

For example:
I play an A chord on the keyboard, RealStrat plays from the EADGHE fret 5 notes (dunno anymore which frets, but it was around the first 2).

So instead of outputting each string to an individual channel (which is possible to record with Cubase, but darn unintuitive), why not send it to one channel only? The 5 played string (instead of the 3 played on the keyboard) are just put through, let's say... converted.


If you'd load that MIDI track/1 channel into GuitarPro5 now, you get something like (and yes, I know that this is probably NOT an A chord but something else - it's for better illustration)

[J van E]

[Compyfox]

Well, sucks to be on the european side of the planet. XD


Nah seriously now... Then it's nearly impossible to write scores for guitarists unless we can play it ourselves and know how to write that kind of stuff. THis a bit of a drawback. I mean... I even had trouble reporgramming chords that're on the 5th to 7th fret on the keyboard, and RS/RG shows some crazy things on the fret display, too.

Well... I could only dream to have such a feature, but it would have made things WAY EASIER for my guitarist friend. And for me too in terms of converting inbetween hosts.

[zumbido]

Tabs?

Just learn to read music.


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